Lemme ‘splain: there was a brief discussion today about 9-11 and the airliner where the passengers “supposedly” fought back. While I don’t doubt that it is entirely possible that the plane was actually shot-down by our own military forces, I am not sure I believe it. However, upon making that statement known, I was A) laughed at, B) called a sheep.
Hmmm, let me think about this for a second. Call me a sheep, call me simpleton, call me what you will, but I need a few things “explained” to me:
- if the plane was shot down, wouldn’t there be eye-witnesses. After all, military jets aren’t quiet, and a massive in-air explosion isn’t exactly an everyday occurrence. Add to that the fact that all of this was on the news as it was occuring, the sound of military jets overhead would have certainly drawn someone out from house to “see” something…anything. (Granted it was over a rural area, but there are few areas so rural as to have someone not notice a couple of jet-fighters downing a passenger airliner. Where are those people and why have they not spoken up? Why do they not want their 15 minutes of fame so they can tell the world, “I saw it…two F-16s shot that there passenger plane and blew it up.” (For some reason, I feel that these eye-witnesses would sound like the tornado victims from a trailer park…don’t ask me why)
- assume the good old government was able to pay some folks off…did they pay everyone off?? What about those people who know the families of the victims on that flight? Assuming it would take a lot of money for someone to “keep their mouth shut” there’d be a trail of that money somewhere and I am sure someone would notice the lifestyle change that would be brought about by that amount of dough. (I admit, it’s a weak argument at best but it still has to be answered in my mind)
- Debris…even blowing up at 500 feet should have sent some debris all over…the military was just that quick to clean it up perhaps?
- Add to that the airline employees…the people in the towers, etc…that’s a lot of people to pay off and keep quiet.
I guess I just don’t buy it. But that hardly makes me a sheep. I would be a sheep if I rolled right over and said…”Oh, so that’s what happened, gee thanks guys, I’d have never known otherwise.” I am not saying that there is no way in hell that this “didn’t happen” but what I am saying is that, the people telling me this are the same tinfoil-hat toting folks that told me that the U.S. military had already caught Osama bin Laden but was keeping it secret until just before the elections. Guess what? That didn’t happen. We’re still looking for the rat-bastard.
The reason I tie this to Madison is this: I’ve lived in several cities and Madison is the only place where I hear stuff like this. In the other places I’ve lived, those that speak like this are the ones laughed at. It’s weird…but it’s true what they say: “Madison is 50 square miles of fantasy completely surrounded by the “real world.”
In the end…many people died…does it matter that our own military shot down the plane? Does it matter, really? If the option were to have that one hit its target, many more people would’ve died. So I ask you one last time does it matter? And if does…then I hope someday someone speaks up…but I don’t think they exist.
Do I want to know the truth? Yes, I believe I do, even if it mean that I am wrong. I just don\'t understand a few things:
- if you really believe this is what happened, then why not do something about it. Start to find a way to let the truth be known and elighten the rest of us. UNtil that time, unfortunately you all risk being viewed as tinfoil wearing \"moonbats.\"
- What would we do with that truth? Just hold on to it and say \"Ha, they were lying to us...\" they\'re always lying to us man, so what does the truth give us?
I\'m reminded of a particular scene in a movie called \"Men in Black\":
There\'s always an Alien Battle Cruiser...or a Korlian Death Ray, or...an intergalactic plague about to wipe out life on this planet, and the only thing that lets people get on with their hopeful little lives is that they don\'t know about it.
Powerful stuff truth...
I guess if you\'ve got the guts to \"take the red pill\" and find out the truth, then make sure you come back for us and make that truth known instead of just whisper it around. It\'s not going to be taken as seriously if you don\'t speak up...
As reported in Newsweek\'s \"The Real Story of Flight 93,\" Beamer\'s last words to Lisa Jefferson included a recitation of the Lord\'s Prayer:
Up to this moment, Beamer had been all business. \"Lisa,\" he said suddenly. \"Yes?\" responded Jefferson. \"That\'s my wife,\" said Beamer. \"Well that\'s my name, too, Todd,\" said Jefferson. \"Oh, my God,\" said Beamer. \"I don\'t think we\'re going to get out of this thing. I\'m going to have to go out on faith.\" Jefferson tried to comfort him. \"Todd,\" she said, \"you don\'t know that.\" Beamer asked her to promise to call his wife if he didn\'t make it home. He told her about his little boys and the new baby on the way. Then he said that the passengers were going to try to jump the hijackers. \"Are you sure that\'s what you want to do, Todd?\" asked Jefferson. \"It\'s what we have to do,\" he answered. He asked her to pray with him. Beamer kept a Lord\'s Prayer bookmark in his Tom Clancy novel, but he didn\'t need any prompting. He began to recite the litany, and she joined him:
Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed by thy name
Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever.
Amen.
\"Jesus help me,\" Beamer said. He recited the 23d Psalm. Then Jefferson heard him say:
\"Are you guys ready? Let\'s roll.\"
Unless the phone company GTE is in on some Flight 93 conspiracy, the text above is truth. It is still possible that government plane(s) shot down Flight 93 shortly thereafter, but the window of time is very small.
Still, I think one of the reasons for all of these various out-of-left-field ideas is that the climate of the current administration is so secretive (and in many cases overtly shady) that it sort of breeds a continuous doubt in many peoples\' minds about the version of events we\'re hearing...from the press, from the government, from everyone. Facts are important.
I agree with you, Ryan, when you say, \"If the option were to have that one [plane] hit its target, many more people would\'ve died\". I think if the government did indeed shoot the plane down, one could make an incredibly compelling argument that it would\'ve been doing the right thing. But if the government shot it down, then we should know.
Playing fast and loose with the truth seems to be endemic to these guys. Journalist Ron Suskind famously recounted a conversation he had with a Whitehouse aide as the US was going to war in Iraq:I tend to think that quote epitomizes the way the President and his minions view the truth and, more importantly, us as citizens.
But to your point, is it likely that United Flight 93 was shot down over Shanksville? Maybe. Maybe not. Reasonable people can reasonably disagree, right?